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ANIMAL ABUSE!!! SCREW THEM!!!!

RehabRalphy

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Actually yes, I solved a lot of things. First off, for my own personal issue that came from watching that movie. In fact, I'm glad I called. If you happened to read what I told you, it wasn't a harassing conversation.

My "accusations" were based upon multiple years of psychological studies throughout the world. And on top of that, how do you know what I said? Wire-tapping? Seems like you have been causing more harm than good with keeping this topic going like it is. Freedom of speech.

Your accusing me of harassing the mother. Any proof there of? Nope.

Now, you have your opinions as well as I have my own.

But the fact is, there was 0 harassment involved in my conversation and post.

A correlation between animal abuse, family violence and other forms of community violence has been established. Child and animal protection professionals have recognized this link, noting that abuse of both children and animals is connected in a self-perpetuating cycle of violence. When animals in a home are abused or neglected, it is a warning sign that others in the household may not be safe. In addition, children who witness animal abuse are at a greater risk of becoming abusers themselves.

Heres some light reading material:

1997 study done by the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA)

Mary Lou Randour Ph.d from America C.A.R.E.S.

Animal Abuse: The Start of Some Things Bad
By Neal D. Barnard, M.D., and A.R. Hogan


HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 286; Statement in the Congressional Record -- June 4, 1998

AMERICAN SOCIETY OF CRIMINOLOGY, Atlanta Marriott Marquis, Atlanta, Georgia, Nov 13, 2007

Ascione, F. R. (1998). Battered womenÃ?¢ââ??‰â??¢s reports of their partnersÃ?¢ââ??‰â??¢ and their childrenÃ?¢ââ??‰â??¢s cruelty to animals. Journal of Emotional Abuse, 1(1), 119-133.

DeViney, E., Dickert, J., & Lockwood, R. (1998). The care of pets within child abusing families. In R. Lockwood & F.R. Ascione, (Eds.), Cruelty to animals and interpersonal violence. West Lafayette, IN: Purdue University Press. (Reprinted from International Journal for the Study of Animal Problems, 4, (1983) 321-329.)

Merz-Perez, L., Heide, K. M., & Silverman, I. J. (2001). Childhood cruelty to animals and subsequent violence against humans. International Journal of Offender Therapy and Comparative Criminology, 45(5), 556- 573.

American HumaneÃ?¢ââ??‰â??¢s National Resource Center on the Link. <!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.americanhumane.org/link" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.americanhumane.org/link</a><!-- w --> or (800) 227-4645.

Ascione, F. R. (2001). Animal abuse and youth violence. OJJDP Juvenile Justice Bulletin.

Ascione, F. R., & Arkow, P. (Eds.). (1999). Child abuse, domestic violence, and animal abuse: Linking the circles of compassion for prevention and intervention. West Lafayette, IN: Purdue University Press.

Barnard, S. (1999). Taking animal abuse seriously: A human services perspective. In F. R. Ascione & P. Arkow (Eds.), Child abuse, domestic violence, and animal abuse: Linking the circles of compassion for prevention and intervention (pp. 101-108). West Lafayette, IN: Purdue University Press.

Boat, B. W. (1999). Abuse of children and abuse of animals: Using the links to inform child assessment and protection. In F. R. Ascione & P. Arkow (Eds.), Child abuse, domestic violence, and animal abuse: Linking the circles of compassion for prevention and intervention (pp. 83-100). West Lafayette, IN: Purdue University Press.

Lockwood, R., & Ascione, F. R. (Eds.). (1998). Cruelty to animals and interpersonal violence: Readings in research and application. West Lafayette, IN: Purdue University Press.

PSYETA AniCare and AniCare Child models of treatment of animal abuse. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.psyeta.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.psyeta.org/</a><!-- m -->
 

Tux

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I accused you of contributing to harassment rehab, seeing how public this has been she would be getting many unsolicited calls, you would be adding to that, it is harassment, also you called, they hung up this showed they did not wish to accept your call, you then called again. To irritate or torment persistently, I'm pretty sure she has been irritated and tormented persistently since all of the contact information has been public and the indecent has been spread all over the web. *67 and a little adrenaline.....

Is their a link between child abuse and animal abuse yes, is that the cause in all cases no. Is it the father abusing the child in all cases no. Like I said their are multiple causes not just child abuse and when it is due to child abuse it isn't always the dad. You solved multiple things, care to share as you only mentioned one and weren't specific on that.

If you could please quote where I said I knew what you said that would help. I did say "and telling them how horrible this is" as I got that impression from your post, did you not do that?

Also I posted in a thread which was in the scroller this is hardly keeping it going but any harm done in doing so is equally on you as you replied to my post as well. It's ok if you miss my point
 

VARNYARD

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I got an email demanding that I remove this thread, but I don't think it is going anywhere. Here is public info right from CNNs website: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-311097" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-311097</a><!-- m -->

Mommy, would like this info pulled, but I do not think it needs to be hidden.

this messageRe: remove private informationWednesday, June 2, 2010 1:57 AM
From: "Bobby Hill, Tegu Breeder" <[email protected]>Add sender to ContactsTo: "Sandi" <[email protected]>It is public right on CNNs website, let me ask you something, how could you raise your children like this??


Thanks, Bobby Hill, Owner,
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And <!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.TeguTalk.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.TeguTalk.com</a><!-- w -->


--- On Wed, 6/2/10, Sandi <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Sandi <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: remove private information
To: "Tegu BreederBobby Hill" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 1:52 AM


Do you not hold to any standard of privacy requirement? Our names and addresses are not for public use. This email is regarding the posting of our private information on your server.

I have indicated the path, the account etc that you need to locate the postings I speak of.

Please remove our private inforamtion.

The information on the ireport was not veted.

--- On Wed, 6/2/10, Bobby Hill, Tegu Breeder <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Bobby Hill, Tegu Breeder <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: remove private information
To: "Sandi" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 1:45 AM


And what exactly is your point? It was your son that abused animals, correct?


Thanks, Bobby Hill, Owner,
<!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.Varnyard-Herps-Inc.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.Varnyard-Herps-Inc.com</a><!-- w -->
And <!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.TeguTalk.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.TeguTalk.com</a><!-- w -->


--- On Wed, 6/2/10, Sandi <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Sandi <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: remove private information
To: "Tegu BreederBobby Hill" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 1:39 AM


OK,
The account named
RehabRalphy

on this date Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:19 pm

at the following path:

<!-- l --><a class="postlink-local" href="http://www.tegutalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=3471" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">viewtopic.php?f=41&t=3471</a><!-- l -->

is posting our names, home and work addresses, phone numbers etc.

Also another account is posting the same and his account name is:

BOOZER

on Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:24 pm

at the same path as above.



The posting of our names and addresses is nestled among other postings of an inflammatory twisted mostly fictional story. These postings continue to cause us to receive threats and harassments. It would be nice if you removed the thread but if not that then at least the postings of our names, addresses, phones and email addresses.

This causes us harm...please help.



Sandi Glenn



--- On Wed, 6/2/10, Bobby Hill, Tegu Breeder <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Bobby Hill, Tegu Breeder <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: remove private information
To: "Sandi Glenn" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 1:32 AM


What is this about? It says: The requested topic does not exist.


Thanks, Bobby Hill, Owner,
<!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.Varnyard-Herps-Inc.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.Varnyard-Herps-Inc.com</a><!-- w -->
And <!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.TeguTalk.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.TeguTalk.com</a><!-- w -->


--- On Wed, 6/2/10, Sandi Glenn <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Sandi Glenn <[email protected]>
Subject: remove private information
To: <!-- e --><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><!-- e -->, <!-- e --><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><!-- e -->
Cc: <!-- e --><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><!-- e -->
Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 1:16 AM



RehabRalphyPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:19 pm and BOOZER did the same at Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:24 <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="pmhttp://www.tegutalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">pmhttp://www.tegutalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41</a><!-- m -->
 

VARNYARD

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This is the whole quote and report from CNN:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-311097" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-311097</a><!-- m -->

CNN REPORT

Kenny Glenn Animal Abuser escapes punishment
August 8, 2009 | Lawton, Oklahoma | Vetting explained Posted by:
DogCatLover

Viewed 128 times


CNN producer note

iReport Ã?¢ââ??‰â?¬Â KENNY (CHRISTOPHER) GLENN - CAT ABUSER
Kenny Christopher Glenn, 14 (alias Timmy) abusing Dusty the Cat

On Sunday, February 15th, 2009 Kenny (Chris) Glenn posted two videos, both abusing a cat named Dusty. He posted these videos on YouTube under the account glennspam1, which has now been suspended. Various mirrors have been uploaded, each being removed by Youtube. It shows Kenny "Christopher" (under the pseudonym Timmy) and his brother abusing their cat. A number of internet communities managed to identify the perpetrator.

VIDEO: Kenny Glenn abuses his cat Dusty
VIDEO2: Kenny Glenn abuses his cat Dusty - 2

video torrent: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.mininova.org/tor/2289460" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mininova.org/tor/2289460</a><!-- m -->
* UPDATE: Local news station KSWO has picked up the story (video version , youtube version , mirror: megaupload)
* UPDATE: The kids are going to the courthouse on 17.02.2009 to meet with the County District Attorney (news link)
March 4, 2009 * UPDATE: The two cats are okay and are going to a new home soon. read the news watch the video
Coverage in TheSun: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2241852.ece" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... 241852.ece</a><!-- m -->
Coverage in RussiaToday: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.russiatoday.com/features/news/37388" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.russiatoday.com/features/news/37388</a><!-- m -->
Coverage in Blick (Switzerland) <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/er-quaelt-katzen-aber-das-internet-findet-ihn-112301" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/er-qua ... ihn-112301</a><!-- m -->

Comanche County teen films himself abusing cat, airs on YouTube
In a disgusting case of animal abuse, a cat being abused was filmed by the culprits and posted on YouTube. A teenaged boy slammed a cat against a wall and repeatedly struck it. It was a hot topic on the internet all day Sunday and bloggers think it happened in Lawton. Among the thousands of posts on the internet, commenters pointed to Lawton as the source after it was posted this weekend. The teenager - who calls himself "Timmy" entered a bathroom that he called his laboratory. Inside the shower was a cat which the boy picked up by its neck and slammed against the wall and floor before beating it with his fists. The attack continued for more than a minute.

YouTube removed the video Sunday afternoon and disabled the user's account - but not before it was seen about 30,000 times. Local authorities confirm that they are investigating the video, and Lawton Police say the Comanche County Sheriff's Department is investigating. Sheriff Kenny Stradley has been shown the video.



INFORMATION ON THE ABUSER:

Contact the District Attorney and ask them to not let this slide:
Attorney General (405-521-3921 / DREW EDMONSON)

Lawton DA (ATTN: Robert Schulte
315 S.W. 5th, Room 502
Lawton, Oklahoma 73501-4389
(580) 585-4444)


Please help this story make national news, submit it to CNN iReport: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ireport.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.ireport.com</a><!-- m -->
UPDATE: Sheriff Stradley of Lawton, OK said: "The horrifying day may be over for the cat, but it is just getting started for its abusers. We'll put it together and take it to the D.A. It will be up to the D.A. whether or not he files charges or not. Our job is to put the investigation together as a case and take it to the DA and that's what we'll do".

Stradley says the teens responsible were released to their parents by the DA and they and their lawyer will meet with investigators to determine their fate on Tuesday. Dusty, the cat, is alive and was taken to a veterinarian where it will remain until the investigation is complete.
*Update: Dusty the Cat is safe for now in the local veterinary hospital (click here to read or watch the video)



*Update: "During their investigation, the Comanche County Sheriff's Department discovered a third abuse video that shows the beating of a black and white cat - also at a teens' home. The sheriff's department rescued that cat today." news link
"The cats will not go back into the home, and they are expected to be adopted out into a good home in the next few days."
"Once the vet treats Dusty and the other cat, 7News will be able to visit them. You can count on us to have much happier footage of Dusty and the other cat later this week."
Anonymous Tip: Feb 19th, 3pm.

NEVERFORGETDUSTY.COM Reports: Jan Stratton is the Director of News at KSWO the local news channel which is updating all the others (except they haven't bothered). Funny that because in small town Lawton (home to the Glenns) Jan Stratton is married to Judge William (Bill) Stratton and they and their little circle of legal and business types just happen to be best friends with....yes you guessed it the Glenns!

I think this info needs to be out there. There isn't going to be justice for Kenny they are just waiting for it to quiet down and give the boys a slap on the wrist. By which time it will be too late to do anything. The Glenns have a lot of power in town."
*Update: Looks like Kenny (Chris) went back to school according to a video posted by a classmate (youtube)



How you can help

Seeing how Kenny (Christopher) Glenn is currently escaping any punishment, a concerned reader of our website sent us this email, outlining a way for ordinary people to help bring Kenny to justice: "I have an observation to make: few have so far noticed that the way to PERMANENTLY punish him would be by punishing his daddy's Oil company.

"Why?" and "How?" are two questions that come to mind, so let me elaborate: why? Well, forget the rumors that Ken's pappy Mark was described online as allegedly an abusive, arrogant racist, supposedly involved in shady business practices and corruption. Those are rumors, they may or may not be true. But . . . if the company is hurt financially, then pappy may decide that there isn't enough money to buy Kenny a new dirt bike, TV, car . . . especially if it's made clear that the Kenny fallout is the reason for the financial hurt. And an unhappy pappy Mark will definitely make it clear to Kenny that he's not a happy camper.

How? Well, for starters, just last year the company (Glenn Oil) got a 10-million contract with the US government. So, one way would be to read the online documents that mention it (Mark even has a leaflet online, where he boasts about one of his big contracts), find the contact info for the companies and, especially, the government institutions that let Mark make money . . . and send them information. To their managers, their PR departments, the local media, the local congressman. Simply and politely ask them if they believe it is the right choice to do their business with a company with such bad press, whose name is now almost automatically associated with animal torture - especially in such competitive times of bad economy, when many more deserving companies are ready to make better offers than Mark's company.

Mail the directors in the government institution that have the oil contracts with Mark Glenn, phone the local congressmen asking them if it's advisable for taxpayer-supported companies to give their money to tarnished firms, inform your local media, send the information to the private companies that have contracts with pappy Mark. In fact, if you know ANY companies likely to have oil, gasoline, etc., related contracts (especially in Oklahoma), mail them IN ADVANCE, just in case pappy Mark tries to do business with them. Just remember - politeness, facts, information. Punish Kenny through the pappy's wallet."

More useful info: (received by email from anonymous supporter)
"Hi and greetings from the cold, grey and ugly center of Europe. I'll
just get to the point without yakking too much: I have several
possibly useful links regarding good old Kenny and his relatives.


Firstly, a promotional booklet from daddy Mark Glenn, with some interesting
information and photos:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://conferencepros.org/growPresentations/Glenn.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://conferencepros.org/growPresentations/Glenn.pdf</a><!-- m -->


It may be interesting to find out that all adult Americans gave their
money to Kenny's dad. That's because he's been getting millions from
government companies... which are supported from taxpayers' money.
Here's some information on their contracts:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.governmentcontractswon.com/department/defense/glenn_oil_co_inc_032969354.asp?yr=07" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.governmentcontractswon.com/d ... .asp?yr=07</a><!-- m -->


And more free money for Kenny's daddy from citizens' pockets, this
time as local grants:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.okiebiofuel.com/Biodiesel_Paper_The_Final.doc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.okiebiofuel.com/Biodiesel_Pa ... _Final.doc</a><!-- m -->
These came from: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.okcleancities.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.okcleancities.com/</a><!-- m --> &
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.centraloklahomacleancities.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.centraloklahomacleancities.org/</a><!-- m -->
Are there any managers in Clean Cities who have e-mail accounts and like cats?


Kenny's daddy gets money from the US Army, too:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.militaryindustrialcomplex.com/contract_detail.asp?contract_id=3392" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.militaryindustrialcomplex.co ... ct_id=3392</a><!-- m -->
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.usfaa.com/membership/sbp.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.usfaa.com/membership/sbp.htm</a><!-- m -->
Does anyone know any colonels or generals who have cats and a contact
e-mail address?


Some old money the family gave some politicians:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.city-data.com/elec2/elec-LAWTON-OK.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.city-data.com/elec2/elec-LAWTON-OK.html</a><!-- m -->
Interestingly, one of those politicians still exists and may in fact
go into Obama's government:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_McCurdy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_McCurdy</a><!-- m -->
He has contact addresses and will also have to set up a new e-mail if
he goes into the government. Would he be happy to be reminded of an
old contributor and his grandson's current interest in cats?


Where some more of daddy's cash went:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ecclesmd.com/~CC/mainhome/!publicfiles/CC-Comm-Pro/2008/Aug08/COMANCHE%20COUNTY%20COMMISSIONERS%20PROCEEDINGS%20AUGUST%204,%202008.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.ecclesmd.com/~CC/mainhome/!p ... 202008.pdf</a><!-- m -->


If this conference takes place again, perhaps the organizers should
know not to bring any cats:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.growok.com/twothousandsix.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.growok.com/twothousandsix.html</a><!-- m -->


Just an article:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.okcleancities.com/pdfs/4_21_05.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.okcleancities.com/pdfs/4_21_05.pdf</a><!-- m -->
and another:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb5561/is_200712/ai_n22710345" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_h ... _n22710345</a><!-- m --> "


you can join us on IRC: channel #catraid2 on EFnet
contact webmaster of this page: <!-- e --><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><!-- e -->
if you own a website or a blog, please link to us to make this page stay in Google so people
can find the truth about Kenny (Christopher and his family)

user submitted photos: (Dusty appreciates your support)

more pics coming soon, our mailbox is full. we've been
getting support emails from all over the world (Europe, Russia, Brazil, Africa, Japan - just to name a few).

Following the Operation Dustyce (which resulted in Dusty and another cat named Patches being saved) Various internet groups and communities
have pronounced February 15'th an international "Dusty Day" (02.15.2009)
 

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--- On Wed, 6/2/10, Sandi <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Sandi <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: remove private information
To: "Tegu BreederBobby Hill" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 2:33 AM


Sorry, just not up to speed on what adding a bump means but I do know what it means when people post your private information nestled in with an inflammatory story.

Anyway, what does my request to remove our names and addresses from your site have to do with how I feel about the vids?

The fact that I was horrified at the videos, would not motivate nor persuade what you already intend to do in your heart. Whatever my responses are, you would use them for justification or an attempt to show yourself righteous even though what you are doing is wrong.

You already did one thing that was purposed in your heart...you did the bump...before I even have an opportunity to finish an appeal.

My answer:

Re: remove private informationWednesday, June 2, 2010 2:43 AM
From: "Bobby Hill, Tegu Breeder" <[email protected]>Add sender to ContactsTo: "Sandi" <[email protected]>


There is nothing to appeal, I will tell you what, if you give me proof that both of your sons have went to canceling to get help for this sickness, I will remove the personal information, if not, it will be there forever. The videos make me so sick to my stomach that I cannot even describe my feelings. I will not turn a blind eye to animal abuse, and I am 110% dead set against it. Your personal infomation was retreved from CNN's website, that makes it public. My site just repeteted the info from that news site.

BTW, I don't care how much you say is true, those videos tell all that is needed to know.


Thanks, Bobby Hill, Owner,
<!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.Varnyard-Herps-Inc.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.Varnyard-Herps-Inc.com</a><!-- w -->
And <!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.TeguTalk.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.TeguTalk.com</a><!-- w -->
 

txrepgirl

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Way to go Bobby ;) . I couldn't ( and didn't want to ) look at the videos. My stomach and mind can't take things like that. Instead of Sandi asking you for help to remove the thread she should ask someone else to get help for her family ( counseling ). The kids do need do be punished. Who knows what will happen next. Now it's animals and next are humans. Maybe they are beating up other kids who are smaller than they are. I can't believe the parents didn't hear all the noise and checked on what is going on. Maybe the parents new about this but are to ashamed to ask for help since they are well know in that town. They want to look like everything is perfect with their family. Well guess what it still came out. I sure hope justice will be done. Thank God the cats are in a better home now.
 

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txrepgirl said:
Way to go Bobby ;) . I couldn't ( and didn't want to ) look at the videos. My stomach and mind can't take things like that. Instead of Sandi asking you for help to remove the thread she should ask someone else to get help for her family ( counseling ). The kids do need do be punished. Who knows what will happen next. Now it's animals and next are humans. Maybe they are beating up other kids who are smaller than they are. I can't believe the parents didn't hear all the noise and checked on what is going on. Maybe the parents new about this but are to ashamed to ask for help since they are well know in that town. They want to look like everything is perfect with their family. Well guess what it still came out. I sure hope justice will be done. Thank God the cats are in a better home now.

Through many emails with her, she has satisfied my mind that she did get counseling for her children. I have removed her personal info here, and can only hope the attacks on other living things by these two children is over.
 

the enigma

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First of all good job Bobby. Second whoever said that this kid just "didn't know what he was doing" is outta their mind. This kid is.....words I can't say on this site. He knew what he was doing. He doesn't need an "evaluation" he needs the crap kicked out of him


(I know I echoed you guys but I had to put in my 2 cents)
 

mastroj

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I just got through reading this, and this is the first I have heard of it. I havent been able to watch the videos, and that is fine with me. I feel sorry for the parents having to deal with the publicity of the issue, but only temporarilly. Media is known to misconstrue things and point blame in false-directions. However, I do believe that problems with kids are the responsibility of the parents. Wether or not the parents did something directly to cause it or their lack of action to stop it they are guilty of poor parenting. Sure some kids are simply easier than others but they made the choice to bring those kids into this world and they need to provide whatever care necessary to raise those kids correctly. I hope the cats end up in an amazing family and both the childrens and parents get what they deserve, and the help they need.

Mastroj
 

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