help!

[Dirtydmc]

Dexter just woke up a few days ago. His front legs aren't working very well. They shake pretty bad when he lifts them. He's moving pretty slow. He isn't eating very much either. Before his 6 month sleep he had food dailey. Multivits, a good light, good humidity, calcium supplements in the food. Dozer was in the same tank and he is fine. Dexter doesn't really react when I pick him up. I am worried.

 

[tommyboy]

Is Dexter the extreme or the columbian? And how old and big is he? My 2011 extreme just went through the exact same issue.

 

[Dirtydmc]

2011 extreme.

 

[tommyboy]

Wow! Mine Went down for 5 months and woke up the exact same way. He has been up for a month now and is completely fine. I raised the humidity and ambient temps a little ( 5 degrees and 5%) gave him plenty of warm baths and let him eat as much live prey as he could take ( frozen thawed) I also bought a fresh UVB and new 10.0 tube light. He was definitely dealing with Metabolic Bone Disorder. I really think the feeding of the mice is what worked wonders for him. I saw an immediate change in him physically.
It was really sad seeing him so lethargic. He could barely walk for a week. 1 month later he is 100% back to normal. Be patient and hopefully he comes around like mine did. Wishing you and Dexter the best!

 

[Dirtydmc]

Moved him into his own enclosure. Two lights for uvb and Uva. Going to the petstore tonight to get some meese. I'm worried about the little guy.

 

[Aardbark]

Sounds like it may be a problem wih the Extreems? I hope the little guy gets better fast.

 

[tommyboy]

I definitely know how you feel! I forgot to mention that I also left his lights on longer than normal so he could soak up as much as possible.

 

[Bubblz Calhoun]

Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions.

MBD isn't something that occurs over night even then there are other issues like Calcium Deficiencies that are symptoms of and can lead to MBD. When caught early CD can be fixed before it gets as bad as MBD. Similar symptoms for both but they're not exactly the same. It could have also been a slight issue he had before hibernating.

Since your tegu just came out of hibernation and hasn't really been eating, it's more than likely just a calcium deficiency. Up his calcium, get some food into him with some natural sunlight and see how he responds.

On another note just because two people with the same type of tegu experienced the same thing, doesn't make it a problem with Extremes.

 

[Dirtydmc]

I allways added calcium to his food before he went down. He was also getting multivitamins and d3 oil. He ate rats, turkey, talapia, liver, gizzards, hearts.

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Gave him a mouse today. Bit it but that was all. So I choped it up and left it in a dish for him. Bought a reptiglow light today too. As soon as I turned it on he moved under it. Hasn't left it since.

 

[tommyboy]

Hopefully within a couple days his appetite comes back. Please keep us updated.

 

[laurarfl]

Agree with bubblz. Does not sound like a genetic issue.

 

[tommyboy]

Agree with bubblz. Does not sound like a genetic issue.

I also agree with both of you. I have 2 friends that got 2011 extremes from the same clutch that never had any issues. The difference being that their tegus didn't hibernate at all. I always believed that my guy had issues due to being so young going into hibernation. He was 3 months old when he went down and slept for 5 months. He was burrowed about 10-12 inches deep in the substrate, and in my mind, not able to soak up any UVA/UVB rays. Again, these are only assumptions on my part.Hearing that Dirtydmc is having the same problem now brings the total to 8 people that I know who have 2011 babies (not just extremes and not all from Varnyard) that hibernated for more than half of their life and had pretty serious issues once waking up, thus validating my theory to some degree.
My intention was not to say that there is a problem with 2011 extremes.

 

[laurarfl]

I had a hatchling (not Extreme) that was born late Aug, came to me early Sept. Hibernated from Nov to April and did not wake up with those type of issues. She did have some overall swelling, but was probably water retention/fluid shift related to dehydration and rehydration and such.

One thing that would be interesting to see...is the growth pattern and diet before hibernation. Are these young tegus in a fast growth pattern right before they go down and therefore in a high demand for calcium?

 

[james.w]

Is the repti glow a uvb bulb?

 

[Dirtydmc]

Is the repti glow a uvb bulb?

Yes. He still is not eating. Only food he has has is one bite that I hand fed him. Have tried since and he wouldn't take it. He's been laying under the lights not moving unless I open the lid. He looks healthy. Fat tail, no wierd bone shape. Just not eating, the shaky legs, and slow movement.

 

[JohnMatthew]

Dozer was in the same tank and he is fine.

Have you tried separate quarters for your tegus? I did a search and saw you mentioned in an earlier post that your columbian is quite a bit larger. Is it possible it's dominating the argentine when you're not around? Do you supervise feeding to make sure they're both getting what they need? Sorry for all the questions, I'm not exactly up to date on what's going on so just tossing out the first thoughts that come to mind. Battling calcium deficiency/MBD, if that's what you're dealing with, would be much simpler if the animal was housed singly. Housing different species together just doesn't seem like the best idea to begin with in my opinion.

 

[Dirtydmc]

Dozer was in the same tank and he is fine.

Have you tried separate quarters for your tegus? I did a search and saw you mentioned in an earlier post that your columbian is quite a bit larger. Is it possible it's dominating the argentine when you're not around? Do you supervise feeding to make sure they're both getting what they need? Sorry for all the questions, I'm not exactly up to date on what's going on so just tossing out the first thoughts that come to mind. Battling calcium deficiency/MBD, if that's what you're dealing with, would be much simpler if the animal was housed singly. Housing different species together just doesn't seem like the best idea to begin with in my opinion.

I seperated them. Dozer is going through puberty and is being nasty. He tried to bite my lady today and went bezerker at a guest. Dozer may be finding a new home if he can't be nice.

 

[Dirtydmc]

Ok, Lisa chopped up a hopper and dexter decided to eat. Good boy. Lots more light needed. Uhg. Fatherhood sucks.

 

[bfb345]

Ok, Lisa chopped up a hopper and dexter decided to eat. Good boy. Lots more light needed. Uhg. Fatherhood sucks.

my red did a similar thing after hibernation but i put his cage in front of a window with direct sunlight all day and he has a powesun bulb and shaped up super quick he wasnt super lathargic but he was extremely jittery in the toes and he wagged his tail which was super cute but concerning lol but light and food and then theyll be back to 100 percent