Gelatin base for tegu diet.

[Dubya]

Hi all! After getting totally flamed for posting the origin of the "San Diego Zoo Diet", I just want to post something I have been working on. I am trying to come up with a totally balanced tegu diet. Here is what I came up with. Proportions of ingredients are still being worked out.

Dubya's Down Home Te-Goo:

1 pound (after cooking) gelatin (for protein)
2oz freeze dried insects (your choice)
1tbs calcium carbonate
1/2 tsp Kaytee guinea pig vitamins
1 tsp organic spirulina. (vegetable)

Make a 16oz batch of gelatin and while still warm, mix in all other ingredients. let cool till firm. Serve at room temperature.

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I have never posted it before pending my study. Gwangi has been doing great on it for the past 3 months and is active and growing like a weed. He goes bananas for it.

 

[chitodadon]

Got to try this

from Samsung Galaxy S3

 

[Little Wise Owl]

The San Diego Zoo diet wasn't flamed for the sake of being flamed. It's not healthy as a staple for any large lizard. Period. I don't understand the need for "complete and balanced" diets when we have a variety of whole prey and fruit/veggies at our disposal. If this is what you want to do for YOUR tegu, then go ahead but I personally wouldn't bother with crazy concoctions that may or may not be causing internal damage. It might not cause him trouble now or in the next year or two but it could when it's passed the point of no return. Just like how a dog seems fine on a low quality dog food... Then when they're older, they're plagued with cancer, skin problems, tooth decay, etc...

I would feed a homemade diet sparingly. Also what are the ingredients in the guinea pig vitamins?

 

[TegusRawsome80]

Lord. You weren't flamed. If you don't want responses that disagree with you then don't post one of the most controversial large lizard diets ever developed. I agree with the above in regards to the green goo.

 

[chelvis]

Warning about the gelatin, its not a good source of protein its missing a lot of different amino acids. If you look at other gelitain reptile foods (repsady and Mazuri both make one) they add something like fish meal to it to really give it protein. Crickets will help but they are mainly caritine and lacking in real protein, hence the big push for roaches now a days. Ditch the g-pig vitamins as all it is is vit C and not much more, reptiles do not need that much vit C.

As for the San Diego Zoo diet, they do not even use that anymore. They have there own bug room and get frozen rodents in weekly, fresh veggies and fruits; all supplemented with Mazuri diets and vitamines.. Most zoos now go with the variety is better diet.

 

[Dubya]

The San Diego Zoo diet wasn't flamed for the sake of being flamed. It's not healthy as a staple for any large lizard. Period. I don't understand the need for "complete and balanced" diets when we have a variety of whole prey and fruit/veggies at our disposal. If this is what you want to do for YOUR tegu, then go ahead but I personally wouldn't bother with crazy concoctions that may or may not be causing internal damage. It might not cause him trouble now or in the next year or two but it could when it's passed the point of no return. Just like how a dog seems fine on a low quality dog food... Then when they're older, they're plagued with cancer, skin problems, tooth decay, etc...

I would feed a homemade diet sparingly. Also what are the ingredients in the guinea pig vitamins?

Look, all of you "whole prey" people: You all talk about a varied diet when you use mainly dubia roaches and rats as a staple. That is just as bad as any other staple. In the wild, a tegu would eat anything it found. If it found a carcass, it would eat the organ meats first like any other predator. Fat and protein first. A tegu would not always have bone, feathers, or fur in it's meal. In captivity there is no possible way to replicate a wild diet, so why not try to make the diet as balanced as we can? The Gelatin diet is working fine. Why can't you "whole prey" people be open to other ideas? You all seem like typical liberals who shout down anyone who doesn't agree with you even if your point doesn't make sense. That is how Obama got re-elected. Jeez!

 

[james.w]

You are correct in saying "In captivity there is no possible way to replicate a wild diet." The idea is whole prey and various fruits and vegetables are a whole lot closer than the "SDZ" diet or your Gelatin based diet. Have you done any blood tests or any other tests done on your tegu to verify that he is "doing great"?

By the way, Obama got re-elected because Romney was a bigger idiot!

 

[TeguBlake]

Lol I love watching people being jerks I think it was cool.

 

[Dubya]

You are correct in saying "In captivity there is no possible way to replicate a wild diet." The idea is whole prey and various fruits and vegetables are a whole lot closer than the "SDZ" diet or your Gelatin based diet. Have you done any blood tests or any other tests done on your tegu to verify that he is "doing great"?

By the way, Obama got re-elected because Romney was a bigger idiot!

You will understand why Obama is bad when you grow up and start paying real taxes and trying to raise a family and when your pension plan is in the toilet due to Gov"t spending. Pensions are invested in, yes, CORPORATIONS! Free college now will cost you for the rest of your life. If you are lucky, health care rationing will make your payments shorter. Ask anyone who came here from Europe. Nobody who came here from communism or socialism would ever go back. Take a big swig of the Kool-ade and Talk to me in 15 years.

 

[Deac77]

Idk about the other "whole prey people" but I feed mice,rabbits,quail,chicken, fish, fruits and veggies, and a large number of other WHOLE animals not mainly rodents I do offer insects but he doesn't care for them and he gets organ meat about every other day be it chicken or beef or lamb or who knows what including when we have deer cleaned I have them save the organs for me the point being it seems more varied than both the San Diego or this one I know they won't always get the whole prey and mine don't but it seems more complete than this (and all organs are supplemented with vitamins or calcium)


On a side note to help yours why not add earthworms they are one of the best feeder insects available just a thought to help up protein

 

[TegusRawsome80]

I am by no means a liberal but you sir are by far one of the biggest idiots I've "met" on the internet. Obama won because the majority of the nation preferred him to Romney. I personally voted for neither of them, but instead chose a third party option which in my opinion makes me unbiased politically. You are exactly why people tend to stay way from forums. You're rude, abrasive, and relatively offensive in general yet get offended when other people respectfully disagree with the diet you feed your tegu. The simple fact is you are feeding a relatively cheap and inadequate diet and people called you on it. You can continue that if you want but your opinion that your tegu is doing "fine" is completely useless in my opinion. You have very little experience raising tegus from what I have seen, and have tried no other diets raising tegus besides the green goo solution. If you post something controversially, expect controversy. If you can't handle other people's opinions then keep yours to yourself and don't post it on a forum where you KNOW that not everyone will agree with you. Also, if you want to blab about government spending then you should look at the presidency of one George "Dubya" Bush.

 

[james.w]

You are correct in saying "In captivity there is no possible way to replicate a wild diet." The idea is whole prey and various fruits and vegetables are a whole lot closer than the "SDZ" diet or your Gelatin based diet. Have you done any blood tests or any other tests done on your tegu to verify that he is "doing great"?

By the way, Obama got re-elected because Romney was a bigger idiot!

You will understand why Obama is bad when you grow up and start paying real taxes and trying to raise a family and when your pension plan is in the toilet due to Gov"t spending. Pensions are invested in, yes, CORPORATIONS! Free college now will cost you for the rest of your life. If you are lucky, health care rationing will make your payments shorter. Ask anyone who came here from Europe. Nobody who came here from communism or socialism would ever go back. Take a big swig of the Kool-ade and Talk to me in 15 years.

Just a little information for you. I am grown enough, I pay real taxes, I have 3 kids, a wife and own/run a business with my wife. I'm not sure how much more growing up I can do. Maybe you should stop blaming others for your situation and put on your big boy pants.

 

[Dubya]

I am by no means a liberal but you sir are by far one of the biggest idiots I've "met" on the internet. Obama won because the majority of the nation preferred him to Romney. I personally voted for neither of them, but instead chose a third party option which in my opinion makes me unbiased politically. You are exactly why people tend to stay way from forums. You're rude, abrasive, and relatively offensive in general yet get offended when other people respectfully disagree with the diet you feed your tegu. The simple fact is you are feeding a relatively cheap and inadequate diet and people called you on it. You can continue that if you want but your opinion that your tegu is doing "fine" is completely useless in my opinion. You have very little experience raising tegus from what I have seen, and have tried no other diets raising tegus besides the green goo solution. If you post something controversially, expect controversy. If you can't handle other people's opinions then keep yours to yourself and don't post it on a forum where you KNOW that not everyone will agree with you. Also, if you want to blab about government spending then you should look at the presidency of one George "Dubya" Bush.

Obama spent 4x Bush.

 

[TegusRawsome80]

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2012/06/01/Whos-the-Biggest-Spender-Obama-or-Bush.aspx#page1
Let's look at the amount they RAISED spending, forgetting for the moment the fact that Obama did NOT spend 4x the amount of money Dubya did.

 

[Dubya]

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2012/06/01/Whos-the-Biggest-Spender-Obama-or-Bush.aspx#page1
Let's look at the amount they RAISED spending, forgetting for the moment the fact that Obama did NOT spend 4x the amount of money Dubya did.

You will understand when you grow up. Where are you going to work after college? A corporation? McDonalds is hiring people with liberal arts degrees. Corporate greed=progress=jobs. Get used to the real world.

 

[james.w]

Why is your response to everything " you will understand when you grow up?".

 

[TegusRawsome80]

You are idiotic. It's funny that you sound like one of those people who hopes that the government will come in and give him a job or some money, yet you tell me to grow up? No offense to people who are getting or have gotten liberal arts degrees, but I don't see a whole lot of value in those. Not a huge surprise they are working at McDonalds. I am majoring in Business, with a specialty in Marketing and I will likely go into sales. I don't however, plan on relying on a president to create jobs for me nor will I whine about my pension on the internet.

 

[Dubya]

You are idiotic. It's funny that you sound like one of those people who hopes that the government will come in and give him a job or some money, yet you tell me to grow up? No offense to people who are getting or have gotten liberal arts degrees, but I don't see a whole lot of value in those. Not a huge surprise they are working at McDonalds. I am majoring in Business, with a specialty in Marketing and I will likely go into sales. I don't however, plan on relying on a president to create jobs for me nor will I whine about my pension on the internet.

Thank God you are majoring in business! I also am not relying on govt handouts. I have a good private sector job. My pension is private sector and does not rely on govt. It does, however, rely on the stock market. Wall Street. You are a real adult with real plans for the future. But this president is not in the business of creating jobs. He is in the business of entitlements and making civil service fake work. I will be leaving the work force in a dew years, but the brainwashed youth and their kids will be paying the tab. But I guess my generation are ALL idiots. I hope when tshtf while I am not too old to fight.

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Why is your response to everything " you will understand when you grow up?".

Because that is when you will understand. 15 yrs from now. Trust me. I used to be like you.

 

[TeguBuzz]

I majored in Political Science. Now I'm in law school but I work as a broker internationally for a real estate company based in Dubai.

 

[laurarfl]

So how about that gelatin diet?